User talk:Trade

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Category:Videos of shooting

Category:Videos of shooting is considered to fulfill the criteria for speedy deletion and has been marked on its page. The following reason has been specified:

plural shootings; just clutters cat autocomplete; has 0 pageviews and is not useful

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Prototyperspective (talk) 11:17, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Category:Videos_by_NASA

Videos by NASA has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

Prototyperspective (talk) 22:27, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

File:TVs at HUD Played an AI-Generated Video of Donald Trump Kissing Elon Musk's Feet (full).webm

File:TVs at HUD Played an AI-Generated Video of Donald Trump Kissing Elon Musk's Feet (full).webm has been nominated for deletion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:TVs at HUD Played an AI-Generated Video of Do… This is a deletion request for the community to discuss whether the nominated page should be kept or deleted. Please voice your opinion in the linked request above. Thank you very much! If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Dronebogus (talk) 04:01, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

Category:Videos_about_philosophy

Videos about philosophy has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

Prototyperspective (talk) 11:52, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

Category:Cosplay of Spider-Man and Doctor Octopus

Category:Cosplay of Spider-Man and Doctor Octopus is considered to fulfill the criteria for speedy deletion and has been marked on its page. The following reason has been specified:

CSD C2 (unuseful empty category)

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Rose Abrams (talk) 11:53, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

Category:Cosplay of Araña (Anya Corazon), Nightcrawler and Deadpool

Category:Cosplay of Araña (Anya Corazon), Nightcrawler and Deadpool is considered to fulfill the criteria for speedy deletion and has been marked on its page. The following reason has been specified:

CSD C2 (unuseful empty category)

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Rose Abrams (talk) 12:20, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

• It wasn't empty before @Rose Abrams: --Trade (talk) 22:32, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
  • Was there anything in it besides File:WW Philadelphia 2011 - Nightcrawler, Araña & Deadpool (5973405626).jpg? - Jmabel ! talk 05:13, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

Category:Videos_about_artificial_intelligence

Videos about artificial intelligence has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

~2026-23762-92 (talk) 18:29, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

Tagging CC0 files as 'no licence'

Can you please explain your logic here (and others)? They appear to be valid user-generated photos, labelled with a valid CC0 tag. I can see no reason to disbelieve that, or to claim it as an invalid licence - let alone to the point of an undiscussed speedy deletion, not even a DR.

I'd agree with deletion of these same files, but for quite other reasons. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:03, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

"I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby publish it under the following license"

Burden of proof lies entirely on the uploader Trade (talk) 11:09, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

Oh I see I just used the wrong template Trade (talk) 11:11, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

Again, much the same question. We do not require VRT confirmation of licensing for Commons images in general, where these are evidently user-generated and uploaded by their photographer, who then licenses them here at the time of upload. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:18, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

I have no clue if the uploader is also the same person as the creator. It's better to verify it Trade (talk) 11:22, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

But there is no policy here that they are required to do that. Nor do you get to demand it because you personally think there needs to be. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:07, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

"If there is any question, evidence may need to be supplied that the copyright owner has indeed released the file under the given licence." As if we do not know if the uploader is the depicted person, the photographer, the graphical artist or someone acting on behalf of the band there is plenty of reasons to question the permission Trade (talk) 13:24, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

What is the question? This is not only an unsuspicious upload, it's one where their actions otherwise strongly suggest that they're very closely involved with the subjects, such that we'd lean towards spam and too much connection, rather than thoughts of it not being connected enough to license it. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:26, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

Being aligned is not the same as having permission to release the promo material into the public domain. For all we know their deal with the photographer did not include any transfer of copyright Trade (talk) 14:31, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

It is not Commons policy (in a big way!) to act on that basis without any reason to think so. We take this on trust at upload time, it's hard to see how the project would operate at scale without. If you want to change that policy (I can see an argument for doing that, although I think it's unworkable) then you'd have to change that policy first. Bulk tagging of uploaders as deceitful (that is, after all, what you're doing here) is not something we're permitted to do (per AGF) without some demonstrable reason for suspicion. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:43, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

The failure to follow Commons:Guidance for paid editors is already enough of a red flag. If you wanna do PR for this particular user then that's your decision. Trade (talk) 14:56, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

Then take them to AN/U if it's an account behavioural issue. But tagging (incorrectly, as you admitted) for 'no licence' (a speedy criterion) rather than using the DR process is obviously just trying for an end-run around DRs and oversight by other editors. That is my issue here, not trying to preserve these images. To then be accused of "doing PR for this user" is clearly a deeply UNCIVIL example of a PERSONAL ATTACK and I would retire to my wikipedia:fainting couch at WP:ANI if I had the thin skin that is traditional there. I'm the one who did tag them for deletion (by DR) and did pot them at AN/U.

My only concern here is not about these images (I really don't give a damn), it's about the regular tactic of retrospectively demanding VRT on images uploaded in previous years, with no credible reason to doubt the veracity of the licensing claim made at upload time. That's damaging to the project and I'm always going to resist it. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:21, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

Andy Dingley, the text in File:Syouf Zan9a est un groupe originaire de Salé, fondé en 2004, composé des deux frères Bla et Djondy -rapmaroc -SyoufZan9a.jpg says "the official album release 2008". That means it was either a) previously published ({{No permission since}}) or b) the statement is false and the file is guaranteed to be out of scope for being nonsense ({{F10}}). - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 15:05, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

In what way does an album release date imply anything about the rights to the image? Nor is any part of this 'nonsense'.

The photos have been used all over the place for nearly twenty years. I don't know if the balaclavas are a recent addition by editing or an old photo taken at the same time, but these do not look like two mid-late '30s rappers (as they are now). Pretty obviously the date claimed here is the upload date, not the photograph origination date. This is a glaring usability bug in Commons that has been around for years and nothing has been done to fix it. We never delete on that basis (I can point you to >100k government-backed newspaper archive photos with the same problem). It's no reason at all to claim an invalid licence. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:15, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

Why can't the uploader just be honest about his relationship with the subject? Why is it the duty of everyone else to spend their time playing detective? Trade (talk) 15:16, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

Because our processes here are complex, arcane and well-hidden. It's far more incumbent upon experienced editors here to follow our major policies, such as AGF (especially towards less experienced editors) and to be honest and straightforward in our actions.

If you want to delete this because they're 'too promotional', then be my guest and open a DR on it. I already did. As it happens, I've since closed it, because on looking more closely, they're big enough musically to afford them that much leeway. You're welcome to re-open it though.

But what we must never do is to abuse our own processes here to stack the deck against newbies. Using a speedy deletion as 'there is no licence claimed' when there very obviously is one is never right. Even when I can list off a few admins who will always delete such an image (and who shouldn't be admins, for just that reason). Andy Dingley (talk) 15:30, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

Andy Dingley, The photos have been used all over the place for nearly twenty years.
Sooooo, COM:NETCOPYVIO?
Using a speedy deletion as 'there is no licence claimed' when there very obviously is one is never right.
I thought Trade already admitted above they had used the wrong template and corrected it to {{No license since}}. - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 15:42, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

As always, if you want to claim deletion on that basis then there's a nice link to 'Nominate for deletion' and you're welcome to click it. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:09, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

I would say that things like this are better handled with a DR. It's not a clear-cut case. I'd have guessed it's a copyright violation, too, but I would not have presumed it's a copyright violation. - Jmabel ! talk 23:07, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

It's not copyright issue in the firce place. It's a licensing issue. In almost every country work-for-hire copyright belongs to the creator unless specified otherwise

Even in a DR nobody have anyway to argue for the files to be validly licensed because the uploader left years ago. In almost every case i have seen the only thing that happens is that the deletion gets delayed by several months for seemingly no purpose other than to clog up the backlog. Trade (talk) 00:34, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

the uploader left years ago
File:Syouf Zan9a est un groupe originaire de Salé, fondé en 2004, composé des deux frères Bla et Djondy -rapmaroc -SyoufZan9a.jpg was uploaded 18 April 2026?
@Jmabel, as the image (or a variation) is found on various websites including Spotify it seems unlikely this could be kept without VRT permission. A DR doesn't hurt, but I doubt it would change the outcome in this case. - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 05:46, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

I completely agree that VRT would be the only way to save this. And I'll admit I hadn't noticed "fan" as part of the uploader name, just a name that seemed to be related to the group. - Jmabel ! talk 15:54, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

"I hadn't noticed "fan" as part of the uploader name"

That would be because it isn't. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:48, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

Oh, I see, "fzan". Haven't had any coffee this morning. So back to what I said in the first place. - Jmabel ! talk 17:27, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

File:Aikasa Collective logo 2.png

File:Aikasa Collective logo 2.png has been nominated for deletion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Aikasa Collective logo 2.png This is a deletion request for the community to discuss whether the nominated page should be kept or deleted. Please voice your opinion in the linked request above. Thank you very much! If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Andy Dingley (talk) 20:19, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

File:Maraş shooting 2026.png

File:Maraş shooting 2026.png has been nominated for deletion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Maraş shooting 2026.png This is a deletion request for the community to discuss whether the nominated page should be kept or deleted. Please voice your opinion in the linked request above. Thank you very much! If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Yann (talk) 20:42, 20 April 2026 (UTC)