Commons:Categories for discussion/2021/02/Built in Leeds by year categories

Built in Leeds by year categories

There is no actual category but I'm listing the individual category pages here. It seems entirely excessive and unnecessary to keep track of what was built in this city by year. The biggest category is probably going to be at most 2-3 items, especially since it's highly unlikely the actual Leeds by year categories will be anything else. I'm ignoring the fact that these are all in the West Yorkshire (which didn't exist until 1974) parent category when they should be in either West Riding of Yorkshire (pre-1889) or directly in England (Leeds was a county borough from 1889-1973). Suggest deletion and upmerger into the parent architecture by decade in Leeds category, the built in West Yorkshire (for now) category and the Leeds by that year category. --Ricky81682 (talk) 23:41, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

All the categories involved. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 23:50, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

• • @Ricky81682: If I understand correctly, that objection seems to assume that only subcategories, not individual photos, will be put in these categories, and that there isn't all that much notable in Leeds or that it's not that well documented. While Seattle, the area I know best, doesn't have a separate "built in..." hierarchy, look at (for example) Category:Built in Washington (state) in 1890 (mostly Seattle) and Category:1890 in Seattle. (1) There can be a lot built in a year in a city. (2) When you say, "highly unlikely the actual Leeds by year categories will be anything else," why do you think that? Leeds then was almost as big as Seattle now! Are there no decent photos of 1890s Leeds? - Jmabel ! talk 02:59, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
    • @Jmabel: Maybe I spoke to too soon but given that I'm creating the categories (most of them are early 20th-century), it's largely empty as of now. The objection is more these separately built in categories just make the built in county category a holder category with one item. I'm also not certain if it's going to be in Leeds or in the City of Leeds separately). Sweden has creation by municipality but I still see each one as maybe 2-3 categories at most. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 03:37, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
•  Comment By decade is the usual level of granularity for this sort of category. Support upmerging. Rodhullandemu (talk) 08:12, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

  I support solution per @Rodhullandemu Estopedist1 (talk) 20:18, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

  I support this as well. ReneeWrites (talk) 14:46, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

  I think this can be kept as is and if not a broader discussion is needed – there also are cats like Category:Built in London in 1905 and lots of other cats in Category:Buildings by year of completion by city. Moreover, this can be useful. So I oppose upmerging and support keeping things as it is.

  This is one of the top CfDs by number of categories affected per Commons:Categories for Discussion table so it would be great if this could be solved. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:09, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

@Ricky81682: It's been five years. These have not filled in a lot. Since it was initially sort of your project: do you think there is enough here to really merit categories by year for Leeds? If so, I'd defer to you. If not, are you planning to work more on populating them, or should we upmerge to the by-decade categories? - Jmabel ! talk 05:07, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

@Jmabel No, I suggested five years to upmerge these to decades while them into the West Yorkshire category, and into the category by year for Leeds. I was filling out red links and being consistent but it is @Prototyperspective who seems to be in favor of it as it is. Ricky81682 (talk) 07:18, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

Why would by year categories for buildings be fine for say London but not Leeds. There is no reason for that. So it either needs broader discussion whether we should categorize buildings by year or things be kept as is and since building year is often of relevance and the year is often known (or when decade is known, year usually is as well), this seems like a reasonable categorization. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:36, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

Because there are far more in London. Category:Built in London in 1900 alone has 21 subcategories and 32 pictures, more than we would have for that decade in Leeds.

(I can see that I have now become too embroiled here to be the closing admin, unless we somehow get to a clear consensus.) - Jmabel ! talk 18:34, 15 April 2026 (UTC)